Babel-17

Milla H reviewed Babel-17 (Sphere science fiction) by Samuel R. Delany

Ruumiittomia kuolleita ja kielen voimaa

3 stars

Ihmiskunta on sodassa Valloittajien kanssa. Eri paikkoihin tehdään sabotaaseja ja hyökkäyksiä. Vieraalla kielellä, jota kutsutaan Babel-17:ksi, lähetetyt viestit liittyvät jotenkin hyökkäyksiin. Runoilija ja kapteeni Rydra Wong on opiskellut kieltä ja ymmärtää sen antavan puhujalleen erityisiä ajattelun voimia. Hän saa selville missä seuraavat hyökkäykset tulevat tapahtumaan ja lähtee pelastamaan mitä pelastettavissa on.

Taisin kuulla tästä kirjasta Embassytownin liittyen: ehkä, tai selvästikin, sen innoittajana. Kieli muovaa ajattelua, molemmat kirjat kuvaavat sitä (samoin kuin Arrival).

Kirjassa on hauskoja ideoita kuten että avaruusaluksen miehistöön täytyy kuulua aistijoita, jotka ovat ruumiittomia kuolleita. Normaalisti niiden kanssa täytyy puhua eräänlaisella puhelimella, koska ihminen ei pysty muistamaan mitä ruumiittomat sanovat. Rydra on opetellut toistamaan niiden sanat itselleen baskiksi ja muistaa ne lauseet.

Suomikin mainittu.

radio-appears reviewed Babel-17 (Sphere science fiction) by Samuel R. Delany

Part pulp, part high-brow

No rating

A confusing mix when it comes to tone, this story reads mostly as a pulpy space opera, except for those moments where it launches into complicated discussions of linguistics and grammar.

Rydra Wong is a poet with such a great knack for learning languages that it borders on telepathy (body language is a language too, after all), and she uses her talent to decode the messages of the Invaders who, as the name suggests, are at war with her society.

I'm not a linguist, but I believe that the scientific theories on which the premise of this book is based have been debunked , which didn't help my suspension of disbelief. Personally, I was much more interested in another idea Delany introduced: discorporate people. Basically, in the future we prove that ghosts do exist, we just haven't yet developed the technology needed to perceive them. Without technological intervention we simply …

A confusing mix when it comes to tone, this story reads mostly as a pulpy space opera, except for those moments where it launches into complicated discussions of linguistics and grammar.

Rydra Wong is a poet with such a great knack for learning languages that it borders on telepathy (body language is a language too, after all), and she uses her talent to decode the messages of the Invaders who, as the name suggests, are at war with her society.

I'm not a linguist, but I believe that the scientific theories on which the premise of this book is based have been debunked , which didn't help my suspension of disbelief. Personally, I was much more interested in another idea Delany introduced: discorporate people. Basically, in the future we prove that ghosts do exist, we just haven't yet developed the technology needed to perceive them. Without technological intervention we simply forget our interactions with the discorporate as soon as they happen, leaving us with nothing but the lingering feeling of being haunted. His vision of a future in which the dead are integrated into society is fascinating, and I would have preferred a book that focused on that idea.

r3lativo@bookwyrm.social reviewed Babel-17 by Samuel R. Delany (The Gregg Press science fiction series)

None

4 stars

Babel-17 is an interesting novel that knows how connect the seemingly distant worlds of linguistics, logic and programming languages - with an appreciated dose of space invaders, spies and fights.

This piece of fiction won the Nebula prize in the 1967, in a tie with Keyes' "Flowers for Algernon"

I could deeply appreciate its concepts as I'm currently also learning about these same topics, and the book also made me think of "Arrival" and others Ted Chieng's stories - yet the universe created by Delany is sometimes hard to picture, probably because of the extent use of peculiar words which globally hindered my experience as a non native reader.

indutny reviewed Babel-17 by Samuel R. Delany

Linguistic Sci-Fi

5 stars

Some fiction centers around plot, and while Babel-17's plot is truly captivating, the thoughts and ideas intermingled with it are what kept me reading the book and affected my thought process. Which is precisely one of the important themes of the book: how much does the language affect who we are? Could we imagine a language that when spoken or thought would change the way one perceives the world? As if this alone wouldn't be exciting, Delany bases off his work on Plato's Dialogues - making firm connection to philosophy.

Zoë Camille reviewed Babel-17 by Samuel R. Delany

Review of 'Babel-17' on 'Goodreads'

4 stars

In a story so much predicated on the concept of language, the printing errors do stand out for and by themselves.

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